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	<title>Comments on: fglrx: Unknown symbol verify_area</title>
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		<title>By: Bandi</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-16187</link>
		<dc:creator>Bandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you have to blame ATI. Those guys maintaing kernel version 2.6 have no sense of responsibility at all. I&#039;ve run into this problem many-many times that symbols present in one version are removed from the next, new symbols added, etc. So you can&#039;t get everything working since one of your cards needs 2.6.x (exactly) and your other card needs 2.6.y. 
Older kernel were much more predictable than this shit.


Thank&#039;s for the patch anyway, I could get my USB WLAN adapter to work under 2.6.14</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you have to blame ATI. Those guys maintaing kernel version 2.6 have no sense of responsibility at all. I&#8217;ve run into this problem many-many times that symbols present in one version are removed from the next, new symbols added, etc. So you can&#8217;t get everything working since one of your cards needs 2.6.x (exactly) and your other card needs 2.6.y.<br />
Older kernel were much more predictable than this shit.</p>
<p>Thank&#8217;s for the patch anyway, I could get my USB WLAN adapter to work under 2.6.14</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-12768</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simp: You don\&#039;t have special things to do, because it\&#039;s not really a patch but a standalone module.
All you have to do, when running under the kernel you want to have verify_area available, is:

$ wget http://www.geekounet.org/patches/files/verify_area.tar.gz
$ tar -zxf verify_area.tar.gz
$ cd verify_area
$ make
$ sudo make install
$ sudo modprobe verify_area

And that\&#039;s all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simp: You don\&#8217;t have special things to do, because it\&#8217;s not really a patch but a standalone module.<br />
All you have to do, when running under the kernel you want to have verify_area available, is:</p>
<p>$ wget <a href="http://www.geekounet.org/patches/files/verify_area.tar.gz" rel="nofollow">http://www.geekounet.org/patch.....rea.tar.gz</a><br />
$ tar -zxf verify_area.tar.gz<br />
$ cd verify_area<br />
$ make<br />
$ sudo make install<br />
$ sudo modprobe verify_area</p>
<p>And that\&#8217;s all :)</p>
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		<title>By: Simp Dawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simp Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m excited about trying out the patch you created, but I&#039;m a new Linux user and on the road a lot away from my users group; thus, I&#039;m stuck.  I don&#039;t want to screw up my system when I enter the terminal mode as root.  Do I need to first pull up some set of text entries to insert the patch in a specific chronology, or do I just log in as root then paste the body of the patch text in its entirety as you&#039;ve typed it?  Forgive my level of understanding.  We all had to start somewhere; for me it&#039;s with a Linux exclusive laptop.  Thanks Gurus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m excited about trying out the patch you created, but I&#8217;m a new Linux user and on the road a lot away from my users group; thus, I&#8217;m stuck.  I don&#8217;t want to screw up my system when I enter the terminal mode as root.  Do I need to first pull up some set of text entries to insert the patch in a specific chronology, or do I just log in as root then paste the body of the patch text in its entirety as you&#8217;ve typed it?  Forgive my level of understanding.  We all had to start somewhere; for me it&#8217;s with a Linux exclusive laptop.  Thanks Gurus</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-8376</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, this fixes Dell OMSA 4.5 for Redhat 9.0 as well.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, this fixes Dell OMSA 4.5 for Redhat 9.0 as well.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: mrk</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-1669</link>
		<dc:creator>mrk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It fixed Paragon NTFS for Linux 3.0 under gentoo 2.6.15 too!

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It fixed Paragon NTFS for Linux 3.0 under gentoo 2.6.15 too!</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Karel Vanthuyne</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>Karel Vanthuyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot for your module!

I had trouble installing DELL&#039;s Openmanage Server Administrator software on a server due to the missing verify_area symbol in a 2.6.15 kernel.

Installed you module and hey: it works!

Hopefully DELL will stop using this deprecated symbol soon.

Thanks,

Karel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for your module!</p>
<p>I had trouble installing DELL&#8217;s Openmanage Server Administrator software on a server due to the missing verify_area symbol in a 2.6.15 kernel.</p>
<p>Installed you module and hey: it works!</p>
<p>Hopefully DELL will stop using this deprecated symbol soon.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Karel</p>
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		<title>By: Ramon</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your module works excellent.
However sadly I&#039;m missing two extra symbols that are apparently no longer present in 2.6.14

fglrx: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion
fglrx: Unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion

So for me it&#039;s back to 2.6.13 I&#039;m afraid
Thanx anyway,

Ramon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your module works excellent.<br />
However sadly I&#8217;m missing two extra symbols that are apparently no longer present in 2.6.14</p>
<p>fglrx: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion<br />
fglrx: Unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion</p>
<p>So for me it&#8217;s back to 2.6.13 I&#8217;m afraid<br />
Thanx anyway,</p>
<p>Ramon</p>
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		<title>By: Ralf Moger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralf Moger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey everyone,

Ahh, looked all day long for the right answer. Thanks!

But I&#039;ve one question to all ATI-users:
I&#039;ve really hard problems with my ATI Radeon.
fglrxinfo puts out the correct vendor (ATI), render (RADEON) and version string. But everytime, when I switch to the textconsole and try to switch back to X, everything&#039;s locked. Can&#039;t use the mouse, keyboard and see only the half of my screen. It works fine, when I kill X and start it from the textconsole. Then, there&#039;s no problem to switch between X and the textconsole.

I realy do not undestand that!

kernel: 2.6.13.2
CONFIG_AGP=m
CONFIG_AGP_SIS=m 
CONFIG_DRM=n
CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=n

The framebuffer is off.

Can s.o. help me?

Thank you, Ralf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone,</p>
<p>Ahh, looked all day long for the right answer. Thanks!</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve one question to all ATI-users:<br />
I&#8217;ve really hard problems with my ATI Radeon.<br />
fglrxinfo puts out the correct vendor (ATI), render (RADEON) and version string. But everytime, when I switch to the textconsole and try to switch back to X, everything&#8217;s locked. Can&#8217;t use the mouse, keyboard and see only the half of my screen. It works fine, when I kill X and start it from the textconsole. Then, there&#8217;s no problem to switch between X and the textconsole.</p>
<p>I realy do not undestand that!</p>
<p>kernel: 2.6.13.2<br />
CONFIG_AGP=m<br />
CONFIG_AGP_SIS=m<br />
CONFIG_DRM=n<br />
CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=n</p>
<p>The framebuffer is off.</p>
<p>Can s.o. help me?</p>
<p>Thank you, Ralf</p>
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		<title>By: metro</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>metro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Me too&quot; - thank you, worked for me after having been confused over half an hour about the misfunction of the ATI-Thing.
regards,
w.f.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Me too&#8221; &#8211; thank you, worked for me after having been confused over half an hour about the misfunction of the ATI-Thing.<br />
regards,<br />
w.f.</p>
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		<title>By: Chady</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Chady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that, but since I&#039;m not familiar with the kernel internals, I tried this at first and it worked.

but this can simply be solved, and here&#039;s a patch for firegl_public.c:

http://chady.net/data/fglrx.patch

I also noticed that the macro in drm_os_linux.h isn&#039;t used anywhere, so it can be skipped.

Thanx for pointing this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that, but since I&#8217;m not familiar with the kernel internals, I tried this at first and it worked.</p>
<p>but this can simply be solved, and here&#8217;s a patch for firegl_public.c:</p>
<p><a href="http://chady.net/data/fglrx.patch" rel="nofollow">http://chady.net/data/fglrx.patch</a></p>
<p>I also noticed that the macro in drm_os_linux.h isn&#8217;t used anywhere, so it can be skipped.</p>
<p>Thanx for pointing this out.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you notice the return value was different ? verify_area() returns 0 if OK, -EFAULT otherwise, whereas access_ok() returns TRUE if OK, FALSE otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you notice the return value was different ? verify_area() returns 0 if OK, -EFAULT otherwise, whereas access_ok() returns TRUE if OK, FALSE otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chady</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Chady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 12:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice patch.

Alternatively, instead of messing with the kernel, I patched the driver itself.

since verify_area() and access_ok() have the same signature, you can change the two occurences of verify_area() to access_ok() in :

drm_os_linux.h: line 78
firegl_public.c: line 1478

and recompile the module.
Works like a charm here.

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice patch.</p>
<p>Alternatively, instead of messing with the kernel, I patched the driver itself.</p>
<p>since verify_area() and access_ok() have the same signature, you can change the two occurences of verify_area() to access_ok() in :</p>
<p>drm_os_linux.h: line 78<br />
firegl_public.c: line 1478</p>
<p>and recompile the module.<br />
Works like a charm here.</p>
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		<title>By: churib</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>churib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can also change the name of the function in firegl_public.c ...
maybe its easier ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can also change the name of the function in firegl_public.c &#8230;<br />
maybe its easier ;)</p>
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		<title>By: sinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 13:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man i just spent the past 3 days screwing with the kernel to get this work and then i finally find this.

i love you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man i just spent the past 3 days screwing with the kernel to get this work and then i finally find this.</p>
<p>i love you.</p>
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		<title>By: Perkins</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best way to fix this is probably to update the driver yourself. Just cd to /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod then run

perl -pi -e &#039;s/verify_area/access_ok/&#039; firegl_public.c drm_os_linux.h

(Or just use a text editor on firegl_public.c and drm_os_linux.h and manually change verify_area to access_ok for all occurences in those files..)

.. Worked for me, anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best way to fix this is probably to update the driver yourself. Just cd to /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod then run</p>
<p>perl -pi -e &#8217;s/verify_area/access_ok/&#8217; firegl_public.c drm_os_linux.h</p>
<p>(Or just use a text editor on firegl_public.c and drm_os_linux.h and manually change verify_area to access_ok for all occurences in those files..)</p>
<p>.. Worked for me, anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: GF@GFcyb.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>GF@GFcyb.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the commands (as root) to compile and install this verify_area module is:
  cd /usr/src/
  make all
  make install

the goal is to have a file named &quot;verify_area.ko&quot; into the kernel module directory &quot;/lib/modules/2.6.14/extra/&quot;.
now just reboot and check if the new module get loaded on loading of the fglrx ATI Radeon driver (if not, just force-load it, adding a line in with /etc/modules ).
bye from Ferrara, Italy
GF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the commands (as root) to compile and install this verify_area module is:<br />
  cd /usr/src/<br />
  make all<br />
  make install</p>
<p>the goal is to have a file named &#8220;verify_area.ko&#8221; into the kernel module directory &#8220;/lib/modules/2.6.14/extra/&#8221;.<br />
now just reboot and check if the new module get loaded on loading of the fglrx ATI Radeon driver (if not, just force-load it, adding a line in with /etc/modules ).<br />
bye from Ferrara, Italy<br />
GF</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Scheirer</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Scheirer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This also fixes proprietary management modules for Dell PowerEdges! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This also fixes proprietary management modules for Dell PowerEdges! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: als</title>
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		<dc:creator>als</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you install the patch ?
after i extract the tar and run make i get.

 CC      /root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.o
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:9: error: variable `__this_module&#039; has initializer but incomplete type
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:10: error: unknown field `name&#039; specified in initializer
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:10: warning: excess elements in struct initializer
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:10: warning: (near initialization for `__this_module&#039;)
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:11: error: unknown field `init&#039; specified in initializer
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:11: warning: excess elements in struct initializer
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:11: warning: (near initialization for `__this_module&#039;)
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:9: error: storage size of `__this_module&#039; isn&#039;t known
make[3]: *** [/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.14-ck1&#039;
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/verify_area/src&#039;
make: *** [all] Error 2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you install the patch ?<br />
after i extract the tar and run make i get.</p>
<p> CC      /root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.o<br />
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:9: error: variable `__this_module&#8217; has initializer but incomplete type<br />
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:10: error: unknown field `name&#8217; specified in initializer<br />
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:10: warning: excess elements in struct initializer<br />
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:10: warning: (near initialization for `__this_module&#8217;)<br />
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:11: error: unknown field `init&#8217; specified in initializer<br />
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:11: warning: excess elements in struct initializer<br />
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:11: warning: (near initialization for `__this_module&#8217;)<br />
/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.c:9: error: storage size of `__this_module&#8217; isn&#8217;t known<br />
make[3]: *** [/root/verify_area/src/verify_area.mod.o] Error 1<br />
make[2]: *** [modules] Error 2<br />
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.14-ck1&#8242;<br />
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2<br />
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/verify_area/src&#8217;<br />
make: *** [all] Error 2</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think I&#8217;ll buy a nvidia card next time&lt;/i&gt;
I personnaly think nvidia&#039;s drivers are worse than ATI&#039;s ones, because nVidia&#039;s X driver relies on the kernel driver to load. Which means no X if for some reason the kernel driver can&#039;t load. ATI&#039;s drivers on the other hand, still run X although with no openGL direct rendering, if the kernel driver can&#039;t load.

Also, r300.sourceforge.net is progressing nicely and we&#039;ll soon have free (as in freedom) drivers for ATI cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think I&#8217;ll buy a nvidia card next time</i><br />
I personnaly think nvidia&#8217;s drivers are worse than ATI&#8217;s ones, because nVidia&#8217;s X driver relies on the kernel driver to load. Which means no X if for some reason the kernel driver can&#8217;t load. ATI&#8217;s drivers on the other hand, still run X although with no openGL direct rendering, if the kernel driver can&#8217;t load.</p>
<p>Also, r300.sourceforge.net is progressing nicely and we&#8217;ll soon have free (as in freedom) drivers for ATI cards.</p>
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		<title>By: chun</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>chun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 01:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great! thanks very much for this workaround! woohoo!

chun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great! thanks very much for this workaround! woohoo!</p>
<p>chun</p>
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		<title>By: Guille</title>
		<link>http://www.colino.net/wordpress/archives/2005/10/29/fglrx-unknown-symbol-verify_area/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Guille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your module, it worked for me...I really hate ati drivers...I think I&#039;ll buy a nvidia card next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your module, it worked for me&#8230;I really hate ati drivers&#8230;I think I&#8217;ll buy a nvidia card next time.</p>
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